11-12-2021, 03:59 PM
So the phrase "save AND destroy" feels accurate- and yet I couldn't be sure that it said it anywhere in the prophecies. Was it an example of the mandala effect? I did a quick search. The phrase is use directly in tFoH, Chap 2, p. 56. referring to Rand's being marked as both Car a Carn and Dragon Reborn "in both cases prophesied to unite, save- and destroy." [emphasis mine]
The prophecies of the dragon and of Rhuidean appear to say the same thing without using the exact phrase:
"In sackcloth and ashes shall he clothe the people,
and he shall break the world again by his coming,
tearing apart all ties that bind."- Kareathan Cycle
"For he shall come like the breaking dawn,
and shatter the world again with his coming, and make it anew."- Kareathan Cycle
"Of the blood, but not raised by the blood, he will come from Rhuidean at dawn and tie you together with bonds you cannot break. He will take you back, and he will destroy you."- Prophecy of Rhuidean
"He shall spill out the blood of those who call themselves Aiel as water on sand, and he shall break them as dried twigs, yet a remnant of a remnant shall he save, and they shall live."- Prophecy of Rhuidean
Still, as we saw, these might ultimately have been metaphorical. His breaking was tied to loyalties, oaths, and so forth. Dragonsworn and all that. And of course, he did break the Aiel by revealing the truth.
So yeah, the conventional belief (valid, at least in term of how the prophecies word it) is the the dragon will save and destroy the world.
I have always liked the idea that the best hope they had was that the DO would be defeated. That was it. Anything after that was gravy. A breaking was coming. No way in hell a sane person would want to be the dragon reborn.
But that's a good catch about 'or'. It's a slight change and I'm not sure if I like the either or. Moiraine's comment is awesome, though. She told the Emond's fielders that very thing, that she'd kill them before letting the DO have them. That's seriously hardcore.
Brilliant comment on Matt. Having him appear to go dark because of the dagger (and his maybe being the DR) is an awesome angle to take.
I love that they mapped out storylines and then tried to figure out how to do the season breaks. It gives hope that they didn't get rid of the seanchan because they were crucial. Seeing the seanchan and the damane in action will be amazing/horrifying (my first reaction when I saw them).
Going to check out soundtrack album now. Curious as to the variety.
The prophecies of the dragon and of Rhuidean appear to say the same thing without using the exact phrase:
"In sackcloth and ashes shall he clothe the people,
and he shall break the world again by his coming,
tearing apart all ties that bind."- Kareathan Cycle
"For he shall come like the breaking dawn,
and shatter the world again with his coming, and make it anew."- Kareathan Cycle
"Of the blood, but not raised by the blood, he will come from Rhuidean at dawn and tie you together with bonds you cannot break. He will take you back, and he will destroy you."- Prophecy of Rhuidean
"He shall spill out the blood of those who call themselves Aiel as water on sand, and he shall break them as dried twigs, yet a remnant of a remnant shall he save, and they shall live."- Prophecy of Rhuidean
Still, as we saw, these might ultimately have been metaphorical. His breaking was tied to loyalties, oaths, and so forth. Dragonsworn and all that. And of course, he did break the Aiel by revealing the truth.
So yeah, the conventional belief (valid, at least in term of how the prophecies word it) is the the dragon will save and destroy the world.
I have always liked the idea that the best hope they had was that the DO would be defeated. That was it. Anything after that was gravy. A breaking was coming. No way in hell a sane person would want to be the dragon reborn.
But that's a good catch about 'or'. It's a slight change and I'm not sure if I like the either or. Moiraine's comment is awesome, though. She told the Emond's fielders that very thing, that she'd kill them before letting the DO have them. That's seriously hardcore.
Brilliant comment on Matt. Having him appear to go dark because of the dagger (and his maybe being the DR) is an awesome angle to take.
I love that they mapped out storylines and then tried to figure out how to do the season breaks. It gives hope that they didn't get rid of the seanchan because they were crucial. Seeing the seanchan and the damane in action will be amazing/horrifying (my first reaction when I saw them).
Going to check out soundtrack album now. Curious as to the variety.