Fourth Age Past Lives

[Nox]

Oh he could very easily self-sacrafice. I just don't want to. But ultimately that is likely his end. I don't see Nox growing old and dying in bed in any verson of his life as much as he wants it

[Claude Saint-Clair]

Just wanted to let you know you have options :-D

Also if your plan is to have Nox summoned at the Last Battle in the third age - whoever his soul is in the third age would have to be dead by then.

[Nox]

He doesn't have a 3rd age life and I don't intend him to ever have one. He doesn't need to be reborn each age.

[Thalia]

We have the book quote as an Atharim prophecy on the wiki, but I had to look up where it had come from XD

Self-sacrifice isn't a prerequisite. Just look at Hawkwing. He died an ordinary death, just had an extraordinary life. Heroes of the Horn serve the Pattern in life (and death), that's the main thing.

[Nox]

Oh I know. It's just a thing I don't see Nox dying in his bed. At least not stage in his life lol. Maybe if he finds happiness for real.

[Ascendancy]

Ya'll pretty much covered any thoughts I had about the 4th Age! I don't have anything to add. Oh, the only thing I guess is there is almost no lore or FA canon built yet about other parts of the world in the 4th Age - it's all centered on Europe/Middle East. There's the Far East, Pacific regions, Americas, etc that Nox could have been born into.

You could also consider that Nox becomes a HotH in this life, then you don't have to worry about accounting for the past. 

Personally I never really considered Ged/Geb a bad-guy god. He was an underworld/death god because he was seen as the earth, and burying bodies in the earth was basically so Ged/Geb could hold the souls of the departed so they could rest easy. However, if you want to spin him more bad-guy god, you can totally do that. 

For instance, I'm currently thinking about the Mesopotamian & Canaanite god Baal, who is seen as a demon today, but I'm making it so that he's actually a good guy and it was his enemies that spun the stories that he was bad/demonic, etc. And at the time of his life, he was actually quite beloved by his people. So you can spin things however you like to fit the story you want to tell.

[Nox]

I never really thought ged was a bad god but because he was a 'god' and the whole Atharim mentality in my head he was thus bad lol. But after reading things with some AI perspective he wasn't. He was about order and the only slightly off thing about him is the married to his sister thing lol.

But I like the idea that the plane crash is what thrust them apart with the amnesia. And Then again in death. I still am partial to only two lived lives but we'll see.

[Ascendancy]

That makes a lot of sense! Haha, yeah the Atharim aren't so keen on any god. You've definitely set a cool precedent with the sister. Almost like they are tied together by the pattern. Maybe the sister is a HotH and Nox's soul kind of is pulled by her thread?

[Thalia]

As I understand it the life that “earns” the status of Hero would be the appearance they take when called. For example - Claude would be Leonidas if called by the horn.

Also I don’t think death is a requirement to become a hero of the horn, but it is a requirement to be called when it blows. If the horn was blown now, Leonidas wouldn’t pop in because Claude is alive. I know how hard it would be to kill your muse - so he can become one without self-sacrifice.

That's kind of what I assumed too. But now I've sat and read about it and thought about it too much lol. 

I think it's also possible that how they appear when they're called by the Horn is just their last life, not one specific life. The fact they are recognisable as heroes who people in that Age actually recognise suggests they are more recent incarnations (or at least the most famous lives within living memory). Say the Horn is blown now - no one would know or care who the hell Artur Hawkwing was. But if he presented as King Arthur we would.

Are HotH born into every Age? Potentially numerous times? For them to be recognised as Heroes when the Horn is blown, must they have had a life recognisable as a hero people in that Age would recognise? Even if not necessarily the last life, but one famous enough to be recognised in that specific Age I mean.

Birgitte seemed to remember bits and pieces from a multitude of lives as far back as the AoL. She seemed to get spun out a lot, not just once or less per Age.

I don't know that this actually matters for FA, just curious now we're discussing it.

[Claude Saint-Clair]

I think arguments could be made either way. Recognition may not be important enough to warrant that - but I also see how it could be. It could also have something to do with the horn sounder. Maybe they appear as the horn sounder would recognize.